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[GE announce] Product Forum & Incubator Project
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templedf
2010-12-03 00:15:55 UTC
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As we're settling down into our new home at Oracle, we're slowly
figuring out how to take advantage of all the facilities that are now
available to us. Today I'd like to introduce you to two of them:


Oracle Grid Engine product forum
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=859

The Oracle Forum is a site for users to post product questions to be
answered by Oracle and other members of the community. A while back I
had a forum created for Grid Engine, and now we're finally announcing it.

You can use the Grid Engine forum to ask questions, report problems, or
otherwise seek grid-enabled enlightenment. Sound like the same idea as
open source users list? It largely is, with two main differences.
First the forum, being a web site, as opposed to a mailing list, has
more bells and whistles to sort through the chaos and help keep track of
the questions and answers that have already been posted. Second,
because it's the product forum, it's a great place to pose questions
about the product, such as about 6.2u6 (which isn't currently available
in the open source).


Oracle Grid Engine Incubator Project
https://oge.samplecode.oracle.com/

The Oracle Sample Code site is a place for community members to share
and collaboratively develop things like sample applications, product
integrations, and common utilities. I've created an incubator project
there for the Grid Engine community to act as a catch-all for useful
code related to Grid Engine. Over the holidays I will probably work on
coalescing some of my other projects (Passau, Ybbs, etc) onto the site.

My plan for the site is to make it the home for all those scripts that
people develop in their day-to-day Grid Engine administration and are
willing to share. Obvious candidates are MPI integrations, file staging
prolog/epilog scripts, transfer queue implementations, and other clever
uses of prologs, epilogs, starter methods, JSVs, load sensors, shepherd
wrappers, and whatever other code the rest of the community might find
useful.

Why do we need yet another source code repository? Well, the open
source site is not really structured to facilitate wide open
contribution and collaboration. There's no way to restrict committer
access for the main source code but leave a contributor section wide
open. With this new site, restrictions will be minimal, because it's
intended to be by the community for the community. Think of it as the
source code corollary to Dag's gridengine.info site.


I'm pretty excited about these two new resources for our community, and
I hope you are as well. I'm really looking forward to seeing them put
to good use.

Daniel

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fx
2010-12-28 21:18:12 UTC
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Post by templedf
Why do we need yet another source code repository? Well, the open
source site is not really structured to facilitate wide open
contribution and collaboration.
The Son of Grid Engine site <https://arc.liv.ac.uk/trac/SGE> is intended
to allow that (and for potential inclusion in a contrib section of the
distribution), though I haven't been able to set up the necessary spam
protection to open it up (or had time to do various other work -- offers
of help welcome). However, it's possible to post contributions to the
ticket tracker without setting up an account, and you can contribute
under any free licence that's compatible with anything that you modify.

I'm told the site looks too parochial, so it will at least be fronted by
Sourceforge when I get a chance.
Post by templedf
With this new site, restrictions will be minimal, because it's
intended to be by the community for the community. Think of it as the
source code corollary to Dag's gridengine.info site.
It may not be intentional, but it doesn't look that way. Apart from the
fact that you have to set up an Oracle account¹, you have to grant Oracle
a licence to exploit code or forum contributions essentially as they see
fit. I don't necessarily want to offer that to the community (I
copyleft substantial independent works), let alone to Oracle, who aren't
sharing with the community now. The terms of use of the site are simply
designed to benefit Oracle as far as I can see, not the community, sad
to say.

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¹ I'm not happy about supplying data even as a customer, since Oracle
don't seem bothered by data protection issues after sending another
customer's information to me and, apparently, sending mine somewhere
else.
--
Dave Love
Advanced Research Computing, Computing Services, University of Liverpool
AKA ***@gnu.org

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